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I just don’t think what shierudo said was correct.

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

What did you want to know about placebos?

https://discord.com/channels/431579755037589505/821731704112152576/1102311873287819274

i think shield was being sarcastic

9:39 PM

I mean

9:39 PM

When you go buy a placebo

9:39 PM

It will say its a placebo i believe (unless its homeopathy lol)

9:40 PM

But if you told the control group of an experiment they are taking a placebo that would defeat the point of using a control group

Lucilyn: shield was mocking the idea of being able to know something "didn't feel like a placebo" so that entire paragraph was ironic (edited)

9:40 PM

sarcasm on the internet strikes again

oh?

9:41 PM

oops I guess…

9:41 PM

doesn’t look like sarcasm though. I’m just confused now.

It looks like sarcasm to me

9:42 PM

specially because of the last part

ohhh

9:42 PM

I think I was reading that wrong. I see now. Oops

9:42 PM

sorry

anything i can do to ease the fear i have because of the "shocking" experience i had?

I personally woudnt advise you to try tulpamancy again after what happened.

Eh? The what experience?

he lost control for a long time or something like that

10:40 PM

I think thats what hes talking about anyway

Was this the chores/meds incident? Or another thing

idk

10:41 PM

iirc it was about a "tulpa" that took control and left his life upside down (edited)

10:41 PM

although according to him its not disordered

Hmmm

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Milk

Was this the chores/meds incident? Or another thing

no, after that, she fronted for a month and caused strong intrusive thoughts

Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)

he lost control for a long time or something like that

i was cofronting so not entirely (edited)

Juesto

no, after that, she fronted for a month and caused strong intrusive thoughts

Wait I thought the meds thing was just like last week ?

Milk

Wait I thought the meds thing was just like last week ?

no all happened last year

Juesto

no all happened last year

Okay so what is the “shocking” experience ?

Milk

Okay so what is the “shocking” experience ?

i didnt expect the switch to happen, it felt like my life took an overturn

Well Just know that in tulpamancy, you are in control I hope that helps with your fear

Kei Wendt

Well Just know that in tulpamancy, you are in control I hope that helps with your fear

its too late

Why?

You good there atlas?

i dont know how i'll fix it

I still don't entirely understand what's "broken"

It's never too late to fix it.

12:56 AM

At least. It's rarely too late to fix it.

Kei Wendt

I still don't entirely understand what's "broken"

trust and..... uhhhh

12:57 AM

im having a hard time putting it in words

Kelly doesn't trust you?

i dont fully trust kelly after that

1:04 AM

it was too imposing

1:05 AM

and granted, its my fault because i allowed losing control but didnt expect it to impact me this much

this is the most vague report and the longest session of pulling words out of someone’s mouth ive seen

1:20 AM

juesto here’s the tip: if you want people to know then say all of it at once, if not then don’t say it

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Juesto

and granted, its my fault because i allowed losing control but didnt expect it to impact me this much

See, it happened because you allowed it you are in control

1:21 AM

You're going to be okay You just need to patch things up with kelly

Kei Wendt

See, it happened because you allowed it you are in control

i wanted it and let it happen

Kei Wendt

You're going to be okay You just need to patch things up with kelly

i dont know how

Apologize to her, and try to interact with her again

its so hard

1:32 AM

she knows im not truly apologizing

Well then, the solution is to truly apologize.

i dont know if i ever will

Well, then I don’t know how you expect us to solve the problem if you can’t apologize to her.

1:33 AM

I’m just being honest, this really rests on you to fix, we can’t truly help.

Juesto this is all really confusing, do you actually want to patch things up or not? If you cant even apologize to her how do you even expect for that to happen? Sorry if i seem rude, i dont understand the full context and im honestly super confused.

im here just pulling from both sides of the same rope

(edited)

I think you need to decide wether or not you want to resolve this conflict before coming to (relative) strangers for help. Especially when providing so little context

Exactly ^

Juesto

she knows im not truly apologizing

Why arent you sorry?

berockly (TTG)

Why arent you sorry?

i cant put it in words, im suppressing it

1:45 AM

emotional reasons

Juesto

i cant put it in words, im suppressing it

You’re going to have to start trying if you want help/input lol

why im even still bothering with this

1:53 AM

i feel self-intimidated by my own guilt

Then you are clearly sorry

it doesnt mean im actually committing to the sorry

berockly (TTG)

Then you are clearly sorry

you think so?

Your guilty about it You want to fix things

2:18 AM

One thing you need to realise

2:19 AM

Your biggest advantage here is you share the same head

but i also want to stay how i am while also fix things

You know each other better than anyone

2:19 AM

Wdym as you are

comfort zone

Juesto, everyone has been trying to help you but you refuse to do anything. I've seen this happen on multiple servers now. Please stop dragging this same issue out over and over and over while refusing to take advice or make any effort

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The bottom line is ultimately, nothing will happen if you do nothing

2:32 AM

Its possible thats why shes mad too Because you arent putting any effort into this

she's iffy rather than mad

2:33 AM

she wants to help but doesnt know how

Lucilyn: these are personal issues at this point, not tulpamancy issues (edited)

2:37 AM

I'm not sure what you want anyone to say

i dont know

2:44 AM

i...

2:45 AM

those personal issues are getting in the way of tulpamancy

Then try to solve those personal issues instead of waiting for someone to magically solve all your problems

2:49 AM

Agh sorry that came out more rude than it was in my mind

people aren't really gonna decide stuff for you

2:49 AM

decide what you want and then do that

i know, its so hard for some reason

I wasn't blown away by my first switching attempt either lol Our experience with switching doesn't mess with our vision or feel magical. It's a lot more subtle, I just find that suddenly I don't lose the front when we get interrupted by someone and I'm interpreting our sensory experiences even though it feels the same as Gray interpreting our sensory experience. I think it's typical for a lot of people to skip possession and go straight to switching. We normally do a switching ritual and spend a few minutes switching, but we can switch instantly for an emergency if we need to. I know Dream rapidly switched among his clones too. (edited)

12:50 PM

We have a three step process: Consent, Affirm, Associate (CAA) Overall, the first step is self explanatory, the second step I'm saying stuff like, "My name is Ranger, I am the host, I am one with the body", and the third step I focus on my sensory experiences. We do a few other things, including one of us "walking into the distance", we change the assumption of who owns the "mind cam", and we fill our body with our form. However, we include those with the first couple of steps === Our ritual is pretty slow, you don't have to do all of that to slow things down. You can pick and choose some parts and make your own ritual (edited)